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1971 Mustang Production Figures
#1
As we all know there was 6121 71 Convertibles built. In 1971 there was 77 Convertibles exported to Germany and these cars had to be named T5. So my question is are these 77 cars part of the 6121 units built or are they not included in those total numbers? Thanks!

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According to Marti's by the numbers book the T5s are included in the total

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runninpony 
(10-08-2018, 08:44 AM)rackerm Wrote: According to Marti's by the numbers book the T5s are included in the total

Thanks Rich!

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#4
Yes. All cars built in USA were bucked with a related District Sales Office (DSO) number.
And all cars that received a DSO are part of Kevin Marti's data.

But the others Mustangs, partially built in the USA and then shipped to other countries to complete, (knock down kits) ARE NOT part of Kevin Marti's data. The Mexican Mustangs are a good example of these cars.

Ray

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1972 Q code 4 speed convertible 
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runninpony 
(11-02-2018, 08:28 AM)Boss1Ray Wrote: Yes.  All cars built in USA were bucked with a related District Sales Office (DSO) number.
And all cars that received a DSO are part of Kevin Marti's data.

But the others Mustangs, partially built in the USA and then shipped to other countries to complete, (knock down kits) ARE NOT part of Kevin Marti's data.  The Mexican Mustangs are a good example of these cars.  

Ray

Ray, now I'm confused! So more than 6121 Verts built?

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(11-03-2018, 04:44 AM)NOT A T5 Wrote:
(11-02-2018, 08:28 AM)Boss1Ray Wrote: Yes.  All cars built in USA were bucked with a related District Sales Office (DSO) number.
And all cars that received a DSO are part of Kevin Marti's data.

But the others Mustangs, partially built in the USA and then shipped to other countries to complete, (knock down kits) ARE NOT part of Kevin Marti's data.  The Mexican Mustangs are a good example of these cars.  

Ray

Ray, now I'm confused! So more than 6121 Verts built?

I would say, NO.  From all I have learned, there were no (ZERO) 'knock down kit' convertibles built for the 1971-1973.  They were mostly hardtops and a few sportsroofs.

Ray

1971 Boss 351  
1972 Q code 4 speed convertible 
1971 Mustang Sportsroof  351-2V FMX 
1973 Mach 1 (parts car)
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#7
What about the one's built in Europe? Was it the Netherlands where Ford built Mustangs? I am sure one of the members posted some info on it in the past. I think they had a 429 that was built there.
I have to believe that anything going down the assembly line in U.S. had a VIN and therefore had documentation that Marti got. You could order what ford called a "Glider" no engine. You could also order with "Sealer Delete". Racers did that to allow the MIG welding of seams to strengthen the unibody. You could also order with just primer.
Many years ago there was a glider primer 1965 mustang body for sale in Hemmings. Was shipped in a big crate.
Went to the google and here is info on the Mustang assembly plant in Netherlands. Started in 1965.
http://home.planet.nl/~nugte075/Mustangnl/Mustangnl.htm


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David,

Simply - Europas are not knock-down kit cars.

Yeah from what I have heard from others who have visited with Mr. Marti - he has no visibility on the knock down kits produced. In other words, his production figures DO NOT reflect any of those cars. But the number he uses are for US production models only. You cannot apply all you know about the US cars to any built or 'finished' outside of the US.

Back to the 1971-1972 Shelby Europas; they were very few in number. Only 14 were produced under a license agreement with Carroll Shelby. Two were convertibles and 12 were sportsroofs. They are included in Mr. Marti's US production data because they all began as US built cars, bought in original US configuration. They were sold through Bob Ford dealership in Detroit and then shipped to Belgium where Claude Dubois: Europe's Shelby Connection added the Shelby performance parts in his garage. All but one had M code 351-4V engines. Even the GT500 model they advertised was a 3514V with a few extra performance options. It is believed that one lone 429 car (a sportsroof) was built but it has never surfaced. To date the two convertibles and 7 sportsroof Europas are known to have survived.

Ray

1971 Boss 351  
1972 Q code 4 speed convertible 
1971 Mustang Sportsroof  351-2V FMX 
1973 Mach 1 (parts car)
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#9
The Netherlands cars are totally different ran from 65 to 73 and I think Marti has the info.


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