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1971 Mach 1 SCJ 429 project on E bay
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-Ford-Musta...684?_ul=PR
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(10-26-2018, 12:33 PM)classicsguy Wrote: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-Ford-Musta...684?_ul=PR

One hellava lot of work... I prefer near rust free projects when I start spending $20K+ on a car that needs a total restoration. Been there, done that... Nice factory optioned car though...
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It's sad to see this old 429 SCJ Drag Pack street warrior left to rot like this. This car has had a rough life. Looks like very little can be salvaged, and the asking price is a pipe dream. I was surprised to see the rev limiter still under the hood. Numbers-matching block though, and if someone spent the huge amount of bucks to restore it, due to its rarity they might still come out ahead financially.
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(10-26-2018, 04:09 PM)donkost Wrote: It's sad to see this old 429 SCJ Drag Pack street warrior left to rot like this.  This car has had a rough life.  Looks like very little can be salvaged, and the asking price is a pipe dream.  I was surprised to see the rev limiter still under the hood.  Numbers-matching block though, and if someone spent the huge amount of bucks to restore it, due to its rarity they might still come out ahead financially.

I'd buy it if the price was reasonable.  I don't have a black one.

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What would be a reasonable price for this car in its actual condition
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(10-26-2018, 05:16 PM)Motorcity Mustang Wrote:
(10-26-2018, 04:09 PM)donkost Wrote: It's sad to see this old 429 SCJ Drag Pack street warrior left to rot like this.  This car has had a rough life.  Looks like very little can be salvaged, and the asking price is a pipe dream.  I was surprised to see the rev limiter still under the hood.  Numbers-matching block though, and if someone spent the huge amount of bucks to restore it, due to its rarity they might still come out ahead financially.

I'd buy it if the price was reasonable.  I don't have a black one.

That would be awesome- it would take a Mustang enthusiast such as you to save this car.  As bad as the rust looks in the pictures it is probably worse once someone would really dig in.  Might be easier to purchase a complete Dynacorn unibody and transfer the good parts and VIN over to it, except that they don't make a complete body shell for the '71.  Looks like it might take floor pans, trunk pan (might be salvageable?), inner and outer rear quarters, cowl, subframe rails, torque boxes, shock towers, passenger side front fender and door or door skin at minimum, rockers would be suspect, and the seller states it might need a hood.  Asking price is $20K and it's tough to say if it's even worth $10K.  The drivetrain would be the most valuable part of the car, and it has a numbers-matching block but no heads, intake, or carb.  If the trans and rear are original as stated that would be a plus.  Someone in the hobby should purchase this just to get it into dry storage.  What a car it would be though if restored- a black 429 SCJ with no front or rear spoilers.  One of the hottest cars of the entire original musclecar era.  The restoration tab at a pro shop would probably hit $40K in the blink of an eye.  Hagerty is showing $80.5K for condition 1 Concours and $65K for condition 2 excellent.
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With a car like this one, money shouldn't be an issue! It needs to be saved...

71-73 Mustangs never die, they just go faster!
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I have seen worse Camaro's saved, lol. It would be over six figures to rebuild and would not be worth $35,000 with all the original sheet metal gone. No date codes would match on the metal.
As far as using a Dynacorn body you cannot. If you buy one of the 65 or 70 mustang bodies they sell you cannot transfer the VIN#. They notify the DOT in your state that you purchased the body and you have to register it as a kit car.
The Camaro I mentioned, or there were several, crazy chevy people. The only thing used was the windshield frame, A posts and cowl where the VIN# is stamped. Every other piece of metal was changed at a cost of over $100,000. He could probably have sold it for $45 - $50,000.
Yes it is a rare car but rare does not make it valuable. Remember one of our members bought one a couple years ago for $27,500 with no rust and original paint. It was on Ebay and I kept myself from bidding have too many already.
It is a parts car in my opinion not worth fixing. If he got $5,000 I would be shocked.


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(10-27-2018, 11:19 AM)Carolina_Mountain_Mustangs Wrote: I have seen worse Camaro's saved, lol. It would be over six figures to rebuild and would not be worth $35,000 with all the original sheet metal gone. No date codes would match on the metal.
As far as using a Dynacorn body you cannot. If you buy one of the 65 or 70 mustang bodies they sell you cannot transfer the VIN#. They notify the DOT in your state that you purchased the body and you have to register it as a kit car.
The Camaro I mentioned, or there were several, crazy chevy people. The only thing used was the windshield frame, A posts and cowl where the VIN# is stamped. Every other piece of metal was changed at a cost of over $100,000. He could probably have sold it for $45 - $50,000.
Yes it is a rare car but rare does not make it valuable. Remember one of our members bought one a couple years ago for $27,500 with no rust and original paint. It was on Ebay and I kept myself from bidding have too many already.
It is a parts car in my opinion not worth fixing. If he got $5,000 I would be shocked.

It is a rare car and it is valuable, if it was in decent shape to begin with... As someone who loves to buy these BB original car's, this is one I would stay away from as the work that is required is too extensive and it will never be near original again IMO... I agree, at this time it is strictly a parts car and the price is too high for the salvageable parts on the car, that I can see. When I bought my J Code vert, I only bought it because the body was pretty rust free and the work that would be required had nothing to do with rust invasion of the car. The car that you refer to bought by 27500 was an anomaly... and does not indicate that this is the future standard for pricing on these car's. I've seen them go for $170K at mecum; same applies, does not mean they are all worth this... A good car, advertised in the right venue with the right crowd will bring good $$$ for the market at that time. $5K for it?, a little low if all the original drive train parts are there and some of the hard to find other parts are salvageable.
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