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Auto / Manual swap 429/460cid
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    Stop Auto / Manual swap 429/460cid

    Hi Mustang Member
    My name is Andreas and i come from Europe - Austria welcome

    First i am sorry, that i dont speak english very well

    I maked an engine swap from a 351 Cleveland 2V to roller 460cid with a dual quad 2 660 Holley carbs.
    I think a 4spd toploader conversion would be the best transmission for it and so I started to search for parts... Dodgy
    There are no new parts for it and i have to look on ebay.com , etc...
    But for someone wich lifes in europe, it is very hard to find parts.

    Does anyone know where i can find all required parts for a toploader swap?
    I need everything... linkages, pedals, clutch parts, shifter, transmission, crossmember, etc... Confused

    My other option would be a c6.
    But i dont know if it will "rock" Huh

    Thank you all
    Best regards
    Andreas
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      RE: Auto / Manual swap 429/460cid

      I can't help with parts in Europe, but I can say that your project sounds great! I'm sure some of our other European members can help point you in the right direction! Although, be sure to check with our site supporters! I know Don from Ohio Mustang said about shipping international! Might be worth a shot!

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        I would also check with Don at Ohio mustang. You can click on his banner at the top of the page.
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          RE: Auto / Manual swap 429/460cid

          Thank you a lot guys Shy

          The transport isnt really a big problem for me.
          Its expensive to buy it in america and ship it to austria yes... but the cheapest way for someone like me.

          I will talk with Don.
          Thank you
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            RE: Auto / Manual swap 429/460cid

            WELCOME aboard Andreas!

            If you are "set" on a toploader, I would suggest you contact Dan Williams Transmission as they are supposedly the premiere authority on the toploader.

            http://www.toploadertransmissions.com/

            Of course, there are a lot of other viable "options" for a "full on" Big Block Ford. It comes down to your "intent" and "approach." I personally run big blocks and have a C6 behind a mildly modified 472 (460 + .060) in my '73 Grandé - - this is my "cruiser."

            I currently have a toploader behind a 428CJ in my '73 Mach I. I am in the process of swapping the 428CJ out for a 545 (460 + .030 w/4.500 forged crank). I plan on using a Broader C6 behind the 545. This is my "racer" for lack of a better labelAngel

            Hope this helps.

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              RE: Auto / Manual swap 429/460cid

              Welcome to the club, Andreas! You should be able to find a lot of useful information here - don't be afraid to ask.

              Please send some pictures when you get a chance!

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                Don mailed me said that he also have less parts for a transmission swap.
                He told me that he will help me to indentify the parts i need. goodone
                Thanks again for the tip and thank you Don.

                My next stop is David Kee transmission. Maybe they can help.
                I also have found someone on ebay.com, but he said that he has the parts in the garden under 2 feet snow Confused

                Do you know the Perogie Brothers in New Jersey?
                They offer a conversion "kit" but they didnt answer on my mails and my phone call...

                At this time my car is standing at the body painter and i will see the car next week.
                The hole car is zinc coated Cool
                I had a virus on my computer last month so there are no old pictures...

                Best regards
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                  (12-28-2010 02:28 AM)AndreasMustang1973Mach1 Wrote:  Don mailed me said that he also have less parts for a transmission swap.
                  He told me that he will help me to indentify the parts i need. goodone
                  Thanks again for the tip and thank you Don.

                  My next stop is David Kee transmission. Maybe they can help.
                  I also have found someone on ebay.com, but he said that he has the parts in the garden under 2 feet snow Confused

                  Do you know the Perogie Brothers in New Jersey?
                  They offer a conversion "kit" but they didnt answer on my mails and my phone call...

                  At this time my car is standing at the body painter and i will see the car next week.
                  The hole car is zinc coated Cool
                  I had a virus on my computer last month so there are no old pictures...

                  Best regards
                  Andreas

                  I have also emailed the brothers in the past with no responseAngry
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                    RE: Auto / Manual swap 429/460cid

                    Hi all

                    A 4 speed conversion from an 460cid into a 1973 Mustang seems to be very rare Confused
                    I think i must wait until the holidays are over and talk with the perogie brothers. Maybe I have luck...
                    I will keep searching for it and tell you if i find something.

                    Have a nice day run_horse
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                      RE: Auto / Manual swap 429/460cid

                      Andreas,

                      Please keep in mind that the 429CJ and 429SCJ were available in the 1971 Mustang. The 429 and 460, as you probably know, utilize the same blocks. I have found that when trying to find parts, especially for those "parts people" who may not be well-versed on the Lima motors that is BEST to just tell them that you are looking for the parts for a '71 Mustang. It tends to keep down "confusion."

                      It should also be noted that according to the Hollander Interchange Manual, the 68-70 428 Mustangs and Cougars utilized the exact same toploader transmission as the 71 429CJ/SCJ Mustangs. When interchanging between the 68/69 to the 70/71 it may be necessary to swap the ext. housing.

                      Hope this helps.


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